"Controverama" (Heather, GKN)

[Zippy]

Controverama

In the first direct response to the site, this particularly emotionally-driven letter, although taking things too personal, saw The Twaddle (or T.W.A.T., when orignally sent) challenged on many fronts. "i h8 teenage poetry" and "Don't Like Smoking? Don't Smoke" were denounced, my number of friends questioned and my air promised smoky.

So, we ask you, fellow Forum members: are our articles out of line? Are our egos inflated? Are my friends into single figures? and, in particular... should my oxygen become plagued with tobacco smoke?!

NB: Please keep personal insults to this post to a minimum; one should respect another's views and be able to respond sensibly.

[beSottied]

That Heather one seems a bit odd - the letter has a general air of "hey! I'm trying to be really cutting"
Greg's responses are much more interesting to read, and I don't think your egos are inflated. So what if they were? At least they'd be inflated over something you've created, instead of just general (Site that Dare Not Speak Its Name)ishness, or over getting pregnant, as is the norm here. Though if you got pregnant, Matthew, I suppose that would be fairly amazing...

[Zippy]

Well, that's my excuse for the way I am at the moment from now on ;D

Sadly, "cutting" shouldn't have to equate to "insulting" in my opinion; it only lended her less credit, particularly about smoking.

Possibly the worst argument for smoking came up, particularly in the context that you're not allowed to smoke at college, even though everyone disobeys it;

"There are smokers wherever you go so I guess you're going to have to deal with it!"

"There are non-smokers wherever smokers go; they're going to have to deal with not smoking at other people."

Almost equally bad a point came in the form of:

"it's an addiction and unless you've ever smoked yourself, you can't judge how hard it is to stop."

...erm... why start? Particularly considering everyone knows through mass media pimping of anti-smoking campaigns that:
a) It costs you loads to support it
b) It increases the chances of cancer by some ridiculous figure, and
c) It makes you smell of smoke, turns your nails and teeth yellow, induces premature aging and wrinkles and makes you sound like the late Barry White.


Thankfully, Greg responded to it before I'd even read it; I just hope letters like that keep on coming, if they stoop to personal insults they aren't a problem. I mean yeah, ok, the articles are personal opinion, and even then only of the author and not the site - I didn't even write the smoking article, yet I'm the one targetted!

[GunstarHero]

yes anyone arguing the benefits and points of smoking is retarded, my response would have been i hope you take up smoking as you'll die quicker and then the world will be a better place with more oxygen for worthwhile people

[BoneyRoney]

My opinion is that this Heather went to way too much bother. If she wanted to insult your paper/magazine/rants and yourselves instead of going on about inflated egos and all that all she had to do was type out "fat" a couple times.

[DrSmartEsq]

no you dont want her to take up smoking for the purely simple fact that if she contracted a smoking related illness you'd be paying for her treatment on the NHS and i'm sure you dont want to be paying your NI contributions to keep rather a highly strung and self important person with her own inflated ego and sense of morality alive. she has to have an inflated ego to under the guise of criticism make such cutting personal attacks as she did. and for the record, i also got an A at AS actually in English Literature and agree entirely with matthew.

[Eat Your Uncle]

Hey everyone, you're all missing something vitally important to understanding the e-mail - once you see this, you'll totally get it and everything will be kickin'-rad once again, dudes!

Wow, how clever are you!? (Rhetorical question)

You must've missed it the first time around. I mean, when I first read it, I thought "My noggin is puzzled, dag nabbit!" Then I came across the parentheses and whipped out the old dictionary. I looked up "rhetoric" and "question", then "rhetoric" again, then...well, "question" again, for good measure, and now I feel totally and utterly enlightened. Apparently, she was being sarcastic, and doesn't like the site!

See?

[DrSmartEsq]

The mare! she had me thinking she loved the site and just had trouble issuing praise. Damn it, I'm so crestfallen and cant trust my own judgment anymore, its all your fault heather! DAMN YOU!

[GunstarHero]

i'll be living in japan by the time she gets her illness so i could care less, if heather is reading this: please join up, we need a forum fool and your the perfect candidate.

[Geg]

We already have plenty fools... but still, join up - we don't want the forums turning into a bitching ground.

.....and the rest of you - do you remember the phrase "no personal insults"? Say her letter's bobbins by all means, but don't slag people off here - we've already deleted posts for it, and don't want to have to again.

[Geg]

Eat said:

Hey everyone, you're all missing something vitally important to understanding the e-mail - once you see this, you'll totally get it and everything will be kickin'-rad once again, dudes!



You must've missed it the first time around. I mean, when I first read it, I thought "My noggin is puzzled, dag nabbit!" Then I came across the parentheses and whipped out the old dictionary. I looked up "rhetoric" and "question", then "rhetoric" again, then...well, "question" again, for good measure, and now I feel totally and utterly enlightened. Apparently, she was being sarcastic, and doesn't like the site!

See?

Let's face it - the "how clever are you?" was always going to be replied with "very", and adding "(rhetorical question)" just begs a rhetorical answer. Nice use of inch-high text, mind.

[Zippy]

If you had not have used said inch-high text I would have completely disregarded it!

Thanks, www.eatyouruncle.cjb.net! (blatant plug)

[Zander]

NOTE sounding like barry white is NOT a bad thing.

[Jakk]

...weighing the same amount as him on the other hand...

--Jakk:t

[Zippy]

Or being filled with as much life

[Jakk]

..or cholesterol...no wonder he's currently living it large in a wooden box

--Jakk

[Zippy]

Emphasis on large. And swap "box" for "shed" or "barn"

[Jakk]

...as far as i know there arent any barns or sheds underground...unless Barry White wasnt really dead and has gone underground to colonize...himself (now that would be some feat of science), resulting in a race of underground uber lovers with weight problems who will one day arise to conquer the earth's fast food restraunts...

--Jakk

[GunstarHero]

what will he do when by the time he comes back all thats left is one restaurant feeding people crumbs like in demolition man - will he trade his watch for a rat burger?

[Zippy]

I tell you what, I wish more people'd write scathing remarks about our articles, you know.

I hope my attack on political correctness gets one or two; I'm sick of it, as are many people, and it's breeding such anti-PC feelings that are turning into exactly what PC people don't want.

But, all that being said, I hope the next response or two get personal again; Heather's response became ridiculous when it started getting all nasty. She didn't even realise that it was Greg's smoking article, not mine.

[DrSmartEsq]

she personified the PC idea, your articles are anything but PC and she threw a wobbler, we want more wobblers!

[Geg]

Hurrah for wobblers!

[Tassadara C]

GKN said:

Hurrah for wobblers!

Are wobblers those little people that you knock over and they stand back up again? No matter how hard you hit them, they DON'T STAY DOWN! It's downright alarming. Disturbing. Wrong. They're so strange...

At least we have blenders. The blenders will save us from the wobblies.

Yeah try to pop right back up now, bitch!

[GunstarHero]

MDG said:

I tell you what, I wish more people'd write scathing remarks about our articles, you know.

yes would people please dissect my article on gaming and tell me where im wearing my rose tinted glasses, the articles are for serious discussion and id like to have all your inputs ;D

[Fwed]

y did heather care soo much about the comments of this site, and aboutthe college paper, to write such a letter to you. i dont see y she cares so much, must have took alot of time 2 write that letter

-fwed

[Zippy]

Agreed, man... I'm not even too sure what her motives behind it were apart from the seeming sheer hatred she had for me.

Rawk

[GunstarHero]

maybe heather should post here

[Tassadara C]

GunstarHero said:

maybe heather should post here

Then we could find productive use for all these lovely lovely pictures from 1337-online.com!

for instance:

censored - proboards doesn't allow profanity

*giggles*

[beSottied]

Tassadara said:

Are wobblers those little people that you knock over and they stand back up again? No matter how hard you hit them, they DON'T STAY DOWN! It's downright alarming. Disturbing. Wrong. They're so strange...

At least we have blenders. The blenders will save us from the wobblies.

Yeah try to pop right back up now, bitch!

a wobbler is a tantrum what are those things that pop back up whenever you clout them? a bit like a giant Weeble.

*twirls away singing weebles wobble but they won't fall down!*

[Zippy]

beSottied said:

a wobbler is a tantrum what are those things that pop back up whenever you clout them? a bit like a giant Weeble.

*twirls away singing weebles wobble but they won't fall down!*

Unless you drop them off a very high building...

In the words of Prophet Ali, "Yeah, try to get right back up now, bitch!"