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Post by Geg on Jan 15, 2004 20:40:35 GMT
The Twaddle is, unlike most sites, written using proper XHTML/CSS (by me). webstandards.org might help explain why. By the way, Internet Crapsplorer doesn't display The Twaddle properly (their fault - not mine). Other browsers, such as Opera and Mozilla do. So to view The Twaddle (and the web) as nature intended, either download Opera, complete with mega-ad, or get the excellent Mozilla Firebird, both for free.
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Post by Zippy on Jan 15, 2004 20:52:18 GMT
I'll agree with Greg here; after weeks of persistence I finally downloaded Mozilla, and I'm using it from now on. IE takes up more RAM for a start when running it, and is generally slow on computers.
Mozilla's also got some nice fiddley bits on too ;D
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Post by Jakk on Jan 15, 2004 22:09:16 GMT
Use firebird instead, its Moziila stipped down to its Y-fronts and novelty christmas socks and is screechingly fast, as for IE, not used it for years, its about as stable as good ol Charlie Manson and as fast as Thora Hird's stairlift. On a simialr note, i hear Opera has been well and truly butchered now by its creators, way to go fellas: --Jakk
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Post by Zippy on Jan 15, 2004 23:52:39 GMT
Aye, tis Firebird I'm using - it's well good. Nice add-ons like AdBlock and SmoothWheel
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Post by GunstarHero on Jan 16, 2004 0:06:41 GMT
seems a change may be in order, IE 5 is a little retro
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Post by Geg on Jan 16, 2004 0:09:56 GMT
I should mention it took me a few days to realise that these forums actually carry giant adverts - and that was only cos I'd turned Firebird's AdBlock extension off. (That's right, it blocks adverts in pages. Firebird blocks popups anyway)
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Post by Jakk on Jan 16, 2004 11:12:46 GMT
IE Is integrating a pop-up blocker with the pending WinXP SP2 release, however as long as it doesnt have tabbed browsing it will always beer th epoor retarded cousin of Mozilla. Mozilla does an admirable job with pop-ups, though it doesnt deal as well with ad's existent in the pages themselves, but thats what Agnitum's Outpost is here for Three cheers for open source.... --Jakk:t
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Post by Geg on Jan 16, 2004 15:56:11 GMT
Mozilla does an admirable job with pop-ups, though it doesnt deal as well with ad's existent in the pages themselves, but thats what Agnitum's Outpost is here for And why we have AdBlock ;D IE's miles behind in terms of drawing pages properly (read: standards-compliant rendering) and the old Microdollar Corp. seem to have no intention of fixing it "because it'll break people's pages that were designed for IE" - I say it's their own fault for designing for IE, rather than for the W3C.
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Post by Tassadara C on Jan 16, 2004 19:07:11 GMT
w00t, I've been converted
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Post by Geg on Jan 16, 2004 19:13:00 GMT
w00t indeed, for version 0.8 of Firebird is imminent
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Post by GunstarHero on Jan 16, 2004 20:55:40 GMT
i am now firebird dependant and any move back to IE would be like going back to betamax videos or cassettes
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Post by Zippy on Jan 16, 2004 22:23:41 GMT
It's like going from my Minidisc player to my 80s Saisho ghetto blaster...
EVERYONE GET MOZILLA FIREBIRD!
I will sleep with you all if you get it!
(Except maybe you)
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Post by Tassadara C on Jan 16, 2004 22:25:01 GMT
I will sleep with you all if you get it! Now I'm just glad I got it BEFORE you made that offer (jk )
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Post by GunstarHero on Jan 16, 2004 22:26:49 GMT
Now I'm just glad I got it BEFORE you made that offer (jk ) its nothing new, mattys offered us it for free before and normally id say no but this one time id had a little bit too much to drink and........
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Post by Zippy on Jan 16, 2004 22:27:15 GMT
I made sure my offer was after you'd got it ;D
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Post by Jakk on Jan 16, 2004 22:57:46 GMT
My only problem with Firebird and indeed all Mozilla builds isnce the geko engine (v1.2) is the file extension association problem with certain older versions of V-Bulletin, its not a huge niggle, but it does crop up every now and again. Also the right click menu layouts of Moz 1.4 and upover is a little different to those foudn in 1.2 and was a little chewy to adapt to at first considering i had been using 1.2 devoutly for about 6 months
--Jakk
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Post by Geg on Jan 17, 2004 17:29:40 GMT
Do you mean MIME-type problems? e.g. where you have a PNG picture, called pic.png, but the server says it's of mime-type text/plain. IE ignores mime-types and would display it as a PNG image, based on the *.png filename. This has lead to servers ignoring mime types for the most part. Mozilla browsers do take note of the mime type (as the w3c says they should) so the above example would result in a bunch of gibberish text. They've recently added a "fix" to Mozilla (affecting all Mozilla browsers, of course) which means that in this case, the browser would probably determine that the file wasn't valid plain text, guess it was a png, and show it as such. It's nice to see so many enlightened folk around here You listening, ronan, mr. "can't be arsed", "when css becomes more widely used" ?
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Post by Jakk on Jan 17, 2004 18:53:26 GMT
Its not a problem with Mozilla, rather its a problem with the coding in older versionf of VBulletin, for some reason they wont play well with Mozilla's file association tool (as Moz doesnt automatically comandeer /jpg/.txt etc files within the browser page in the way IE does) in anything newer than Moz 1.2, of paticular nuisance were .jpg extensions, you had to remind Moz to open them with itself every tiem you went to access a Jpeg attachment to a forum post and then it would proceed to request a location to download the image to before displaying it, rather than doing it all on the fly and downloadign the image to temporary storage. Most vbulletin based sites have updated their software by now like, but it still crops up occasioanlly
--Jakk:t
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Post by Geg on Jan 20, 2004 17:42:40 GMT
It's like going from my Minidisc player to my 80s Saisho ghetto blaster... EVERYONE GET MOZILLA FIREBIRD! I will sleep with you all if you get it! (Except maybe you) I've convinced Dav to download it... Hope he can take a joke...
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Post by Geg on Feb 10, 2004 12:40:00 GMT
Mozilla Firefox 0.8 is here!
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Post by Geg on Nov 11, 2004 19:51:28 GMT
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