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Post by Zippy on Jan 15, 2004 0:53:01 GMT
i h8 teenage poetryThis is currently the topic that has sparked off the most debate, and now's your chance to pass comment and confer with others on the topic. Do you believe teenage poetry is a genre that puts other poetry to shame, or do you feel otherwise?Please remain on topic - please keep banter to Utterances. Thanks.
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Post by beSottied on Jan 15, 2004 22:10:09 GMT
argor, teenage poetry! I know exactly the type of thing you mean, and I can't bear it. Terrible attempts at being "meaningful" usually result in rhyming verse full of Absolutely Awful Alliteration.
Though I think poets have the right to make up their own words - it was encouraged in our English Language class - incorrect spelling shouldnae be allowed - especially this whole SMS carry on (l8r, c u, etc).
Saying that though, are any poets not just trying to sound clever. I mean, what the hell is carol anne duffy about?
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Post by BoneyRoney on Jan 15, 2004 22:20:04 GMT
This poetry ain't so bad its all about being sad so who cares if you make up stuff all it'll do is make you look like a big bloody puff.
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Post by Jakk on Jan 15, 2004 22:24:24 GMT
I believe that poetry as a whole is for pretentious, middle class intellectual arty-farty-ies (theyre the next rung down from Tories on the "Jakk's Scum-o-meter"), who should take thier heads out of their arses and get on with something worth while, like doing a proper days work for a living
--Jakk
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Post by Zippy on Jan 15, 2004 22:50:20 GMT
I don't know man, I think teenage poets are Tories, personally. Not because of their political stance, just in the sense that they feel their poetry, like the Tories' manifesto, actually means something.
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Post by Tassadara C on Jan 15, 2004 23:00:44 GMT
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Post by Zippy on Jan 16, 2004 0:19:16 GMT
*Puts dut on*
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Post by DrSmartEsq on Jan 16, 2004 0:20:49 GMT
i agree with Matty, poetry is an artform and if you're going to partake at least do it properly, and is it such a struggle to use entire words and talk about something other than suicide and the enveloping darkness?
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Post by Zander on Jan 16, 2004 16:47:10 GMT
Puppies and Kittens by A.Notherponce
Why must I cry myself to sleep and lay alone and weep why must I wait for love to come why must I die to find someone when I was a child, I had hope ...yet now I come, to the end of my rope how much longer, can I hold on how much longer until I'm gone ?
this the kinda stuff you are all talking about I assume. Many of them claim that this is an outlet for their meaningless worries about the world. THIS is the kind of person who wears a "I hate myself and want to die" T-shirt. They are so obbsessed with their own sense of dissapointment in themselves for not being more "origional" than everyone else they decide to spend some time that could be better spent perhaps learning some skills that will help the world, writing "their thoughts" backsides. <----------------lovin the word filter.
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Post by DrSmartEsq on Jan 17, 2004 20:47:01 GMT
give me Philip Larkins poetry anyday, its depressive and hateful while conforming to accepted rules of language. he is the torch bearer for the cause of proper poetry, hes showing its ok to whinge on and on as long as you do it properly. Hoorah for Philly Larkin
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Post by Zippy on Jan 17, 2004 21:03:32 GMT
Phiz Lazza is the bomb. His poetry actually conveys points through every way possible and generally speaking makes a lot of sense.
That Men In Hats comic, number two in particular, shows the poetry I hate. Even if it stays on topic, it's generally shite.
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Post by DrSmartEsq on Jan 18, 2004 18:46:17 GMT
I reckon we should make Philip Larkin the god of poetry
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Post by Zippy on Jan 18, 2004 19:10:31 GMT
I reckon we should make Philip Larkin the god of poetry Agreed ;D
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Post by Tassadara C on Jan 18, 2004 19:14:59 GMT
I reckon we should make Philip Larkin the god of poetry who?
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Post by Zippy on Jan 18, 2004 19:30:50 GMT
Philip Larkin.
Can't you read? ;D
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Post by Tassadara C on Jan 18, 2004 19:32:23 GMT
Philip Larkin. Can't you read? ;D oh you're a big fvckin help. [/sarcasm]
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Post by Zippy on Jan 18, 2004 19:33:23 GMT
I'm feeling victimised in my own thread Actually, all threads.
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Post by DrSmartEsq on Jan 18, 2004 19:44:09 GMT
he was an embittered poet, look him up
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Post by Tassadara C on Jan 18, 2004 20:07:15 GMT
I'm feeling victimised in my own thread Actually, all threads. Actually, just in general, whenever I get the opportunity.
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Post by Tassadara C on Jan 18, 2004 20:08:52 GMT
he was an embittered poet, look him up *sigh* effort. *does so*
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Post by Geg on Jan 23, 2004 0:03:34 GMT
tnage po8ry roxxx...
Is it just me, or would it be quicker for all concerned if one made use of all the available keyboard and actually spelled words properly? Maybe these children are on pay-per-letter internet connections...
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Post by DrSmartEsq on Jan 24, 2004 18:30:24 GMT
or maybe their parents accidently dropped them on their heads over and over or raised their children in a microwave
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Post by BoneyRoney on Jan 24, 2004 18:50:51 GMT
or maybe their parents accidently dropped them on their heads over and over or raised their children in a microwave Hey, the method works. Just look at me...ohhh. Do'h.
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Post by Roofus on Mar 30, 2004 21:09:26 GMT
but you all seem to be on the ANTI-teenage poetry thing, which is fair enough.but isnt the whole point of poetry(or so i think) to mean something to specific people and not everyone?like something i like might mean shite to someone else,cuz i actually LIKE some CAD stuff(dont shoot me)and maybe something i wrote would mean a lot to me but would be shite to someone else.it's very subject specific type of thing.i just don't get Larkin, i seem to prefer childrens poetry. so thats the end of my rant.BUT in my defence i did get an A at poetry last year, so maybe i know something.and i'm really only arguing cuz i feel sorry for all those teenage poets out there, some of it is good.
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Post by Geg on Mar 30, 2004 21:15:27 GMT
To the untrained eye, it certainly seems all very similar - one tenage angst poem wuold be OK, but the five-millionth (probably not an exaggeration) gets somewhat tedious. They all seem to use the same devices - swearing, misspelling and death-ness, for examples - in the same way - over and over again; I can't find any originality among them.
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Post by Cortney on Jun 24, 2004 23:08:32 GMT
Daddy Loves Me by: Cortney Warm
My daddy loves me This I know Because every night He tells me so He says the bruises Won't last too long & that I am weak & he is strong Yes Daddy loves me & his love hurts me He only hits me Because I am so bad My Daddy came home From the local pub He said it was my fault That he had lost his job I told him I loved him & I tried not to cry As he beat me Until slowly I died Now it is so cold & I know I must be dead A voice says 'Come closer & rest your weary head' My Daddy loves me He told me so that night As he choked me & took away my life But now I am happy & so I sing this song To pray for my daddy Who loved me all along
I put this here just to let you all know that there are some of us teens out there who don't just write to help ourselves. I wrote this to get it out there that child abuse is very real & the children involved a lot of the time don't realise that their parents aren't doing this out of love. I know it is a depressing poem, & I don't really care if you want to label it along with the rest of your ranting & raving about teenage poets, but I do know that not all of us are about death & destruction & just wanting attention. Some of us actually have good reasons to write. Just a thought. *Oh, do note that I didn't use any caps, whining, or instant messaging shortcuts.....& also, I am 15 so yes that qualifies me as a teenager.* Cortney
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Post by Eat Your Uncle on Jun 25, 2004 14:27:04 GMT
NINJAS!
Edit: ...no ninjas...
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Post by Geg on Jun 26, 2004 1:17:56 GMT
1. Misspelling is different to typo (fair point about the typos, though) 2. Misspelling is spelt* like that - y'know, mis...spelling * OK, I'm not sure if it's "spelt" or "spelled"
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Post by Eat Your Uncle on Jun 26, 2004 11:16:59 GMT
1. Misspelling is different to typo (fair point about the typos, though) 2. Misspelling is spelt* like that - y'know, mis...spelling * OK, I'm not sure if it's "spelt" or "spelled" Ninja edited. EDIT TO BE ON TOPIC: I write poems about horsies (not real horsies...not about horsies at all, in fact.)
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Post by Zippy on Jun 27, 2004 11:51:21 GMT
Daddy Loves Me by: Cortney Warm My daddy loves me This I know Because every night He tells me so He says the bruises Won't last too long & that I am weak & he is strong Yes Daddy loves me & his love hurts me He only hits me Because I am so bad My Daddy came home From the local pub He said it was my fault That he had lost his job I told him I loved him & I tried not to cry As he beat me Until slowly I died Now it is so cold & I know I must be dead A voice says 'Come closer & rest your weary head' My Daddy loves me He told me so that night As he choked me & took away my life But now I am happy & so I sing this song To pray for my daddy Who loved me all along I put this here just to let you all know that there are some of us teens out there who don't just write to help ourselves. I wrote this to get it out there that child abuse is very real & the children involved a lot of the time don't realise that their parents aren't doing this out of love. I know it is a depressing poem, & I don't really care if you want to label it along with the rest of your ranting & raving about teenage poets, but I do know that not all of us are about death & destruction & just wanting attention. Some of us actually have good reasons to write. Just a thought. *Oh, do note that I didn't use any caps, whining, or instant messaging shortcuts.....& also, I am 15 so yes that qualifies me as a teenager.* Cortney I don't mean to shock you, but the article was an over the top view of something I am very passionate about. Although I hate my setreotypical definition, some of it is genuinely good or meaningful. However, unlike your poem (which isn't too bad), if you look around you, there is lots of teenage poetry, if not most, if not nearly all, that prescribes to at least two or three of my criteria. It's purely aspirational at times. Many think of themselves as the Poet Laureate or the New Thing by writing a few meaningless lines in a "Whose Life Is The Shittest" kind of way. It's sad to watch, especially when, in some cases, it's overplayed to get attention to the person who wrote it, true or not; yours does not, although people would naturally sympathise with you if they were to read it - just the concept alone I find to be awful. You're rational, use rhyme and rhythm well and don't go over the top to prove your point. Many, though, do not. The amount of times I have heard something similar to "crimson globules" or "scarlet lifeforce" removed by a "shining edge" or "rusty blade" is amazingly high. I'm not so much attacking the poetry itself, just the culture and the motives of the writers. You were quick to justify yourself, but many do not do that.
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